Why Do Christians Want to Have So Much Sex?

After I posted a an article yesterday on How to Stop Pre-Marital Sex, Abyssal took the time to make a thoughtful reply.

Because it was long I thought I would shred him in a new post.

Here is his comment (the stuff in quotation marks are from me):

“There are consequences to our sin. Forgiveness doesn’t necessitate lack of consequence. If I rob a bank, God can forgive me, but I still go to jail.”

Agreed.

“Too many western Christians equate forgiveness with lack of consequence when Jesus taught just the opposite.”

Can I get a scriptural reference on that?

“If I murder your spouse should I get a pass if I repent?”

No, but then again a fornicator hasn’t hurt anybody and doesn’t represent a potential threat to the safety and well being of others…

“In addition, if someone lies that’s on them, not the pastor. He asked.”

It’s not just the liars who’re getting punished, but the honest, good-hearted people who want to leave their sins behind and lead a more godly life won’t be able to get married because they weren’t willing to lie are also getting punished, although in an earthly sense.

“You have no clue about what the Bible says about judgment.”

Seems like a pretty harsh evaluation of someone you don’t know.

“Why not investigate it for yourself. This is EXACTLY what we are commanded to do.”

Once more I’ll politely ask for a scripture reference on that one.

“Just because you want to overlook sin doesn’t make it a good idea.”

Since when did I want to overlook sin? I just said tha I think your system for punishing sin had holes in it.

Thanks for playing along Abyssal.

Can I get a scriptural reference on that?

How many ya want, sweetie?

Matthew 25 has three different parables all talking about consequences for the things we do in life. Some will argue these only apply to non-Christians, yet it speaks nothing about faith only about deeds.

The parable of the talents is particularly pointed as two of the three who received talents found favor and at the (allegorical) judgment were rewarded differently based on the actions they had taken in life.

II Corinthians 5:10:
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”
I can give you more if you would like, but you see my point. I see your point, too. Right there on your head.

“If I murder your spouse should I get a pass if I repent?”
No, but then again a fornicator hasn’t hurt anybody and doesn’t represent a potential threat to the safety and well being of others…

OK, but you didn’t address the point which was: Why should they not have consequence to their sin?

Here’s what we pastors have done by lowering the standards for marriage: We have destroyed the meaning of fidelity. We call people recycled virgins cause that’s what they want to hear. But it isn’t true.

There is a movement in ‘merica to “save the sanctity of marriage.” Golly, maybe not condoning sex outside of marriage might be a start. Or do you not believe that is something the church should stand for?

(I think the church should also be against the exploitation of midgets, but that’s another story.)

“Fornicators”? That’s so 1611—are you Amish? (It’s a safe bet you’re not, unless you got Apple’s new iChurn—it’s bluetooth and internet ready.)

It’s not just the liars who’re getting punished, but the honest, good-hearted people who want to leave their sins behind and lead a more godly life won’t be able to get married because they weren’t willing to lie are also getting punished, although in an earthly sense.

You have a tough time differentiating between “punishment” and “consequence.” I’ll type this slowly so you can understand:

O U R A C T I O N S C A N H A V E C O N S E Q U E N S E S

By accepting extra curricular ugly bumpin’ we have a consequence for our entire society—religious marriage becomes irrelevant. By refusing to marry those who do they have a consequence, but marriage and the church become stronger.
Can they get married? Sure. They can go to the courthouse and a judge can marry them. You see, that’s consequence. You play hide the weenie you lose the option of a church marriage.

“You have no clue about what the Bible says about judgment.”
Seems like a pretty harsh evaluation of someone you don’t know.

That’s simply a statement of fact: He had no clue what the Bible says about judgment. But if it makes you feel better, you don’t either. You both confuse consequence with punishment.
Sometimes the belt of truth leaves welts.

“Why not investigate it for yourself. This is EXACTLY what we are commanded to do.”
Once more I’ll politely ask for a scripture reference on that one.

You didn’t say “please”…but I’ll answer you anyway.

I Corinthians 5. Whole chapter. Addresses this VERY situation. Tells us not to associate with sexually immoral people. You know, like “fornicators.”

“Just because you want to overlook sin doesn’t make it a good idea.”
Since when did I want to overlook sin? I just said tha I think your system for punishing sin had holes in it.

Here you go with the punishment thing again. Do you have a problem there? A little secret dungeon or something? Hmmm…you may want to discuss it with your pastor. I’m not sure it’s healthy emotionally. But, hey, what two consenting adults and a parrot do in the privacy of their own home is not my business.

Overlooking sin is when you OVERLOOK SIN.