Shame, Self-Condemnation and Porn: Meet Mark Jr.

Over at Fundies Say the Dardest Things back in April my good friend and sometime mentor SatisfiedHousewife got her own little post. Mark Jr., owner/operator of I See It Differently blog this week made a comment directed to me (scroll down at FSTDT to see it.) And little Markie DOES see it differently.

I’m going to walk you lucky readers through his comment and see if we can explore the shallows of his mind. His comments are in italics and mine are, of course, in BOLD, cause that’s the way I roll.

You don’t go to hell for not subscribing to a religion. You go to hell for being a lawbreaker and violating God’s law.

Actually if there is a “hell” (other than the grave—the most common meaning of the word in the KJV) you “go” there because you are not one of God’s children. Since everyone by the Biblical definition is a lawbreaker, then, by your simple definition, everyone is destined for hell.

And, whether you want to call is a religion or not, then you go to hell for not subscribing to a system of belief (religion).

You lie, steal, murder (hate in the heart and unjustified anger), commit adultery (lusting after others), make a false god (“MY god would never make a hell”), take His name in vain, and many other ways. You do it every time knowing it’s wrong, so you’re crime is sinning with knowledge that it’s wrong. Violating conscience (con=with, science=knowledge) means you sin with knowledge. This is the problem, not a lack of subscription to a religion.

Hmmm…have you been reading my diary? Last time I checked I haven’t done any of those things nor have I said I have—and it is only a sin to lust after a woman who is married to someone else. Look it up. Personally I have been cruising Match.com, cause “it’s OK to look.”
Taking God’s name in vain. Do you have any clue what that means? Give it some study, cause it has nothing to do with cursing.

Jesus talked more about hell than heaven. Don’t believe me, look for yourself. He warned repeatedly and told us how to avoid it.

The word “hell” appears a grand total of 12 times in the Gospels. The word “heaven” appears 138 times. Don’t believe me, look for yourself. Are you so full of self-condemnation you can’t see this simple truth? Seems like it.

He didn’t start a religion, He opened up a way of life that brings you His salvation, which because of your purposeful sin against him, you need.

This is why non-Christians think you’re silly Mark. By ANY neutral definition of religion, Jesus (or at least the apostles) started a religion. I can’t understand why that concept escapes you. Any system of belief practiced by adherents is, by definition, a religion.
But let me flip the question back to you—if he didn’t start a religion, what did he start? (remember to use “real” not “pretend” definitions…)

Her quote wasn’t even given it’s context, so Mr. Whore is being deceitful and performing his lovely slanted journalism. That’s cowardly. You make it sound as if she just showed up one day and said that and left. Stupid.

Actually it’s Mr. Church. I am the church.

I’m having trouble seeing how the context of her quote in any way changes what she wrote.
Please explain my deceit and stupidity. I mean, unlike you, I know the difference between “your” and “you’re”, “its” and “it’s.” Unlike you I didn’t take 2 years to figure out the whole prophetic/Toronto/etc. movements were bogus. Unlike you I wasn’t deceived into drugs.

[Note to non-Marks: Check out Mark's about page for reference here.]

Maybe you’re right; maybe I am stupid and set out to deceive people. Then again, maybe I am trying with all my heart to get people inside the Church to leave behind the crap and start being little Christs. (Just like the one on the dashboard only more “lifey”)

You see Markie-poo, I know I’m evil. More evil than you can comprehend. The reason you can’t comprehend how impossibly evil I am is because you are unable to see how impossibly evil you are. The reason I picked on Satisfied and you is because though you are blind you claim to see—and attempt to instruct others.

Now at this point you will say, “No, I know how evil I am.” I’ve read your blog. You have no clue. Not a clue. You don’t even comprehend how much of what you do is still driven by ungodly shame and fear rather than commitment to Christ.

It will be a while before you understand that, but file it away.

And you know what? She’s right. He loved Hitler and Mousolini (spelled right?) and Pol Pot. He loved Judas.

God says there are people he hates. Look it up. I don’t know that he loved Hitler, Mussolini (I might be stupid, but I can spell that one) or Judas. You get a gold star if you can come up with a list of people in the Bible God says He hates.

His love is available to all, but not many are taking it because it requires your whole life and who wants to lay that down?

Me for one. I guess that concept, again, is lost on you. Stop judging by uninformed appearance.

You’d rather spank your monkey to porn than ask Him for the grace that will set you free from your sin.

Um, where did I say I even OWN a monkey? And if I had one, why would I spank it? And what does that have to do with porn?

[Takes trip to Urban Dictionary]

Oh, I get it. Masturbate. I do masturbate. So do you. So does every guy you know with a healthy libido. But I don’t spank my monkey to porn.

This is an interesting insight on the inner workings of your brain. Of all the potential sins you could have picked, your first choice is to go to porn inspired masturbation. We already know you masturbate—for you are the two inseparable? Is Jesus too weak in your life to free you from the need for those images?

Keep in mind you brought it up.

It’s your choice and your fault, not His. Everything that can be done for you HAS been done. Your in jail with a bail bondsman waiting to bail you out, but you won’t call him. He’s the lawyer who can represent you before the Judgment Bar and get you aquited, but you won’t call Him.

You have a spell checker but won’t use it.

His price isn’t church attendance or money in the plate or charity donations of feeding homeless people. It’s your life. It’s a trade off: your defiled life in exchange for His pure life AND the desire, power and ability to keep it clean. And when you screw up, He’s still there with mercy to forgive.

You just made a post on your blog about how you were sinning by not doing what your employer asked you to do. You did it for 3 months. Where was the Holy Spirit for those 3 months? Where was your purity? Where was your honesty? For those 3 months did Jesus not have the power to keep your life clean?

And I know His price isn’t church attendance, so I don’t go. It’s not money in the plate, so I don’t give to church organizations. It’s not feeding homeless people, I think it’s giving them a home. (Get it, they’re HOMELESS not HUNGRY. Get it?)

So, WC, be fair next time you quote someone instead of this slanted journalism bull crap you pulled off here. And give everyone the FULL truth, not just the happy and warm fuzzy parts. With all the love, mercy and joys there are many tough and demanding things to reckon with as well.

My Bible must be wrong. Maybe I’ve got a misprint. I thought once I learned to work under Jesus’ “yoke” I would find his yoke was easy and burden light? I thought I had already met all the righteous requirements of the law? I thought I was just a bunch of rearranged dust and God never forgets that? I thought all I needed to do was do justly, love mercy and walk humbly with God?

What Bible do you have? Maybe you could send me a copy.

Or maybe you’ve inhaled a bit too much bug killer.

Basically, quit preaching a swiss cheese gospel (full of holes).

Wow, that’s for explaining what you meant by “swiss [sic] cheese,” because I thought at first as Peter was the apostle to the Jews and Paul to the Gentiles, I might be the apostle to the cheese.

But then again, Swiss cheese doesn’t need salvation because Swiss cheese is holy.